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Lidralyn · Nov 19, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34

What is the best way to get all of my heroes/henchman/minnions to attack 1 target? I end up on some fights fighting the healers alone and taking forever to kill stuff. Even if I hit space and attack it, or sometimes even cntrl space and it says "Name is attacking *target*" they sometimes will go and sometimes will not.

If the cntrl space is the best way, where can I change that to just "space" so it's eaasier? I cannot find "call target" or any such thing in the control options?

Any help is appreciated,
Thanks

Roen · Nov 19, 2010, 08:13 PM // 20:13

CTRL+[space] or CTRL+[skill] is how you call a target and heroes set to guard will attack the called target. Henchies I'm not sure will follow a called target and minions have their own agenda altogether so you can't really call a target and get them to stick with it.

You can also lock heroes on a target. This can be a useful way to get for instance two heroes to spike one bad guy (a healer or something) that would usually stay back out of the fight but close enough to heal while you and minions and henchies take out closer targets. Or to get your heroes to join you in taking down a boss while the henchies and minions run around like chickens with their heads cut off soaking up the attention of other bad guys.

Malganis · Nov 19, 2010, 09:10 PM // 21:10

To lock heros on a target, open the hero control panel for each hero (the 1, 2, and 3 next to their names in the party list). On the left side of the hero control panel is a crosshairs target icon. Click on that and that hero will attack the same foe you are.

Lidralyn · Nov 19, 2010, 09:19 PM // 21:19

is there a way to change it to another button instead of control? It's just an annoying button press to hit control+space every mob.

Lidralyn · Nov 19, 2010, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Thanks Malganis, is it possible to bind that to a key?

Anime Divine · Nov 19, 2010, 09:41 PM // 21:41

Dont think its possible to bind 2 actions into 1 button unless you macro it.
And besides space is intenden as an action button to follow or target.
Wouldnt it be anoying to press space and get " im attacking-following target" all the time.
It would for me anyway

Kronk_Shaan · Nov 19, 2010, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Calling usually works, which for me is Ctrl-T. You can also press ctrl and double click your target. About 90% of the time, they will follow.

Stroon · Nov 20, 2010, 12:39 AM // 00:39

Henchmen and heroes will generally follow your target, regardless of whether you ctl-space or just attack. They only look at what you're auto-attacking though, so if you use spells make sure to press space so you're also activating your attack. It doesn't matter if you hit, just the act of turning on auto attack is what triggers the AI (easy enough to test, just cast some 3s or 5s spell, and halfway through hit space to see the henchmen go).

In my experience, there is no difference between ctl-space and space if you keep attacking the same target. If you ctl-space, the AI will remember the target though, so you can swap to a different target yourself. It's easy enough to see the melee henchmen and heroes run back and forth between targets if you just swap which enemy you're hitting yourself.

Left to their own devices, they do gravitate towards killing the healers first, but the melee henchmen will usually pick whatever is nearest instead.

Star_Jewel · Nov 20, 2010, 07:38 AM // 07:38

The keybind in question is all the way at the bottom of your F11 Control list: Targeting: Show Targets. You can assign multiple different keys to that keybind, if you find Ctrl+Space cumbersome. However, as noted, you can't natively assign calling targets to a single keybind. It has to be combined with an action key (spacebar) or click, otherwise all that bind does is show the names of enemies onscreen.

If you only play with heroes+henchmen and thus wouldn't risk annoying human party members, you could always wedge a folded pieced of paper in against your Control key to keep it held down and always call your targets. Or use a software to simulate such.

Nov 19, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34	#1
Lidralyn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2010	Question about AI? What is the best way to get all of my heroes/henchman/minnions to attack 1 target? I end up on some fights fighting the healers alone and taking forever to kill stuff. Even if I hit space and attack it, or sometimes even cntrl space and it says "Name is attacking target" they sometimes will go and sometimes will not. If the cntrl space is the best way, where can I change that to just "space" so it's eaasier? I cannot find "call target" or any such thing in the control options? Any help is appreciated, Thanks

Nov 19, 2010, 08:13 PM // 20:13	#2
Roen Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: GMT-5 Guild: [Nite] Profession: R/	CTRL+[space] or CTRL+[skill] is how you call a target and heroes set to guard will attack the called target. Henchies I'm not sure will follow a called target and minions have their own agenda altogether so you can't really call a target and get them to stick with it. You can also lock heroes on a target. This can be a useful way to get for instance two heroes to spike one bad guy (a healer or something) that would usually stay back out of the fight but close enough to heal while you and minions and henchies take out closer targets. Or to get your heroes to join you in taking down a boss while the henchies and minions run around like chickens with their heads cut off soaking up the attention of other bad guys.

Nov 19, 2010, 09:10 PM // 21:10	#3
Malganis Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southern California Guild: Everlasting Sacred Path [ESP] Profession: N/	To lock heros on a target, open the hero control panel for each hero (the 1, 2, and 3 next to their names in the party list). On the left side of the hero control panel is a crosshairs target icon. Click on that and that hero will attack the same foe you are.

Nov 19, 2010, 09:19 PM // 21:19	#4
Lidralyn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2010	is there a way to change it to another button instead of control? It's just an annoying button press to hit control+space every mob.

Nov 19, 2010, 09:30 PM // 21:30	#5
Lidralyn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2010	Thanks Malganis, is it possible to bind that to a key?

Nov 19, 2010, 09:41 PM // 21:41	#6
Anime Divine Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2007 Profession: W/	Dont think its possible to bind 2 actions into 1 button unless you macro it. And besides space is intenden as an action button to follow or target. Wouldnt it be anoying to press space and get " im attacking-following target" all the time. It would for me anyway

Nov 19, 2010, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#7
Kronk_Shaan Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Missouri Guild: Is it Friday Yet? (HI) Profession: Mo/	Calling usually works, which for me is Ctrl-T. You can also press ctrl and double click your target. About 90% of the time, they will follow.

Nov 20, 2010, 12:39 AM // 00:39	#8
Stroon Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2010	Henchmen and heroes will generally follow your target, regardless of whether you ctl-space or just attack. They only look at what you're auto-attacking though, so if you use spells make sure to press space so you're also activating your attack. It doesn't matter if you hit, just the act of turning on auto attack is what triggers the AI (easy enough to test, just cast some 3s or 5s spell, and halfway through hit space to see the henchmen go). In my experience, there is no difference between ctl-space and space if you keep attacking the same target. If you ctl-space, the AI will remember the target though, so you can swap to a different target yourself. It's easy enough to see the melee henchmen and heroes run back and forth between targets if you just swap which enemy you're hitting yourself. Left to their own devices, they do gravitate towards killing the healers first, but the melee henchmen will usually pick whatever is nearest instead.

Nov 20, 2010, 07:38 AM // 07:38	#9
Star_Jewel Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Denizen of Tyria since Feb. 2009	The keybind in question is all the way at the bottom of your F11 Control list: Targeting: Show Targets. You can assign multiple different keys to that keybind, if you find Ctrl+Space cumbersome. However, as noted, you can't natively assign calling targets to a single keybind. It has to be combined with an action key (spacebar) or click, otherwise all that bind does is show the names of enemies onscreen. If you only play with heroes+henchmen and thus wouldn't risk annoying human party members, you could always wedge a folded pieced of paper in against your Control key to keep it held down and always call your targets. Or use a software to simulate such.